Churchill's a hero of mine. You may recall I had a tomcat named after him as a young lad. But I must again point out that the quote was not said by Winston Churchill. Sorry, but no.
@ JWG: I have seen at least five places where that quote is attributed to Winston Churchill, as it has been a favorite of mine ever since I changed from a liberal to a conservative, so I dunno...
BTW, my progressive plan is as follows: Liberal, Conservative, Cynic and then, after moving to Michigan's Upper Peninsula, Survivalist!
(I'm still trying to locate that 50-caliber sniper rifle)
@Jake I had forgotten about Michelle. Let us call that cat Church 1.0. Now Church 2.0 happened a few years later (after your complaint that Church 1.0 was your cat and I shouldn't rename her).
The second cat I named Winston Churchill was a polydactyl cat, a tomcat, tiger stripped, with a chunk (in later years) missing from his left ear. He would often disappear for weeks at a time, only to return hungry and strangely sated. I had a hunch he was sowing wild oats in the back fields of the Dupee farm.
I last saw Church when I was sixteen, a few months before we moved to St. Clair. I remember it because, at that time, I had a car cat named Hrathgar.
@Captain(Dad)K The quote was from an 18th or 19th century frenchman. It was in the news (New Yorker? Washington Post?) a few years ago. I mentioned it to you at the time because you've said the quote before and I thought you would like to know. I will see if I can dig you up a link.
Charles Krauthammer [op-ed, May 25] quotes Winston Churchill as saying, "If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head."
This quotation is frequently but mistakenly attributed to Churchill. It is anyway unlikely that Churchill would subscribe to this philosophy: He was a swashbuckling soldier at 20, and a Conservative member of Parliament at 25. A couple of years later he switched to the Liberal Party (which was not liberal in the modern sense), and later went back to the Conservatives.
The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."
I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!! How true how true, sad but true.
ReplyDeleteChurchill's a hero of mine. You may recall I had a tomcat named after him as a young lad. But I must again point out that the quote was not said by Winston Churchill. Sorry, but no.
ReplyDeleteYou did not have a tomcat named Churchill. You started calling my cat, Michelle (named after Bob & Elenore's daughter), Church.
ReplyDeleteBoys, boys!
ReplyDelete@ JWG: I have seen at least five places where that quote is attributed to Winston Churchill, as it has been a favorite of mine ever since I changed from a liberal to a conservative, so I dunno...
BTW, my progressive plan is as follows: Liberal, Conservative, Cynic and then, after moving to Michigan's Upper Peninsula, Survivalist!
(I'm still trying to locate that 50-caliber sniper rifle)
@ Anonymous Coward: I know, I know...
Oh, to be honest, I suppose it was: Non-political Young Married Adult, Hippie, then Liberal, etc.
ReplyDelete@Jake I had forgotten about Michelle. Let us call that cat Church 1.0. Now Church 2.0 happened a few years later (after your complaint that Church 1.0 was your cat and I shouldn't rename her).
ReplyDeleteThe second cat I named Winston Churchill was a polydactyl cat, a tomcat, tiger stripped, with a chunk (in later years) missing from his left ear. He would often disappear for weeks at a time, only to return hungry and strangely sated. I had a hunch he was sowing wild oats in the back fields of the Dupee farm.
I last saw Church when I was sixteen, a few months before we moved to St. Clair. I remember it because, at that time, I had a car cat named Hrathgar.
@Captain(Dad)K The quote was from an 18th or 19th century frenchman. It was in the news (New Yorker? Washington Post?) a few years ago. I mentioned it to you at the time because you've said the quote before and I thought you would like to know. I will see if I can dig you up a link.
ReplyDeleteHeartfelt Politics
ReplyDeleteCharles Krauthammer [op-ed, May 25] quotes Winston Churchill as saying, "If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head."
This quotation is frequently but mistakenly attributed to Churchill. It is anyway unlikely that Churchill would subscribe to this philosophy: He was a swashbuckling soldier at 20, and a Conservative member of Parliament at 25. A couple of years later he switched to the Liberal Party (which was not liberal in the modern sense), and later went back to the Conservatives.
The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A43103-2001Jun8¬Found=true
Ahh, yes, Church 2.0 - the official Toss the Cat test cat.
ReplyDelete(laughing almost too hard to type) Yes, yes, that's the one!
ReplyDeleteToss the Cat. Some called it cruel. We called it toughening 'em up.
(Laughing as well) Thanks for the memories! I haven't played Toss the Cat since Mouse was here.
ReplyDeleteCause, Caley would bite me and I'd get a hernia trying to pick up Scruffy!